Tuesday, December 1, 2009

A Fine Article on Same Sex Marriage and the Lame-Brain "Manhattan Declaration"

A Right to Say 'I Do'

By Richard Cohen

The Washington Post -- Tuesday, December 1, 2009

The truth is that if Maj. Nidal Hasan, the accused killer of 13 people at Fort Hood, had entered the officers club there with a nice handbag on his arm, perhaps a Gucci tote, he would have been out of the Army by the end of the week. Since he was merely antisocial, a misfit, an incompetent psychiatrist and a likely Islamic fanatic, he was retained and promoted. This says something about America. On the subject of gays, we are a tad nuts ourselves.

That irrationality comes at me on an almost daily basis. One of the most prominent and strongly held planks of the Republican Party's right wing -- its only wing, it seems to me -- is opposition to same-sex marriage. I know this from the sheer huffy-and-puffiness of commentators such as Bill O'Reilly.

In a recent column, O'Reilly directed us to read something called "The Manhattan Declaration," which was released late last month by a coalition of conservative Christians -- Catholic and Protestant alike. It makes three points. The first concerns abortion, and it will surprise no one that the signatories oppose it. The third -- I know, I know, I'll get back to No. 2 in a moment -- concerns "Religious Liberty" and the occasional efforts of government to make religious institutions conform with public policy. This is a point worth considering.

No. 2 -- the longest section of the declaration -- applies to same-sex marriage. It amounts to a confession of confusion, a cry by the perplexed who have come to think that same-sex marriage is at the core -- the rotten core -- of much that ails our society. Everything from divorce to promiscuity is addressed in this section without any acknowledgement that same-sex marriage, like all marriage, is a way of containing promiscuity (or at least of inducing guilt) and that not having it would not reduce promiscuity in the least. This I state as a fact.

It remains true that the family is the single best place to raise children. That being the case, same-sex marriage would serve the same purpose. I know of children raised by same-sex partners and they seem no worse for the experience, although -- O'Reilly beware -- they lack a certain knee-jerk antipathy to gays, lesbians, transsexuals and similar people of dissimilar sexuality.

Some of the declaration is couched in religious terms, and with that I cannot argue. But it is its appeal to common sense that I find so appalling. When it comes to same-sex marriage, the declaration conjures up a future where "polyamorous partnerships, polygamous households, even adult brothers, sisters or brothers and sisters living in incestuous relationships" will be legal. Not likely, but this is not the intent of the movement to legalize same-sex marriage any more than marriage between men and women was supposed to permit Henry VIII to have six wives or for Elizabeth Taylor to have seven husbands, one of them twice.

The reasoning in the declaration is so contorted that it brings to mind the dire warnings from years past of what would happen if blacks and whites were allowed to marry -- not to mention similar references to what the Almighty purportedly intended. This sort of comparison irritates many African Americans who oppose same-sex marriage, but I can see no reason why the civil right extended by the Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage) is any different than the one sought by gays and lesbians. Marriage has certain economic advantages, and to withhold them based on nothing more than religious preference or, at bottom, a certain disgust entrenched in convention, is clearly a civil rights matter.

In the end, the courts will decide this question. That's what they're for. It's doubtful that the voters of Virginia would have allowed Mildred and Richard Loving to tie the knot back in 1967 any more than the public in general approves of same-sex marriage today. Such a legal case, spearheaded by the political odd couple of David Boies and Ted Olson, is likely to reach the Supreme Court in the not-too-distant future. Then, I suspect, wedding bells will ring through the land -- and, after a pause, America will wonder what the fuss was all about.

21 comments:

RayGun said...

"strongly held planks of the Republican Party's right wing -- its only wing, it seems to me -- is opposition to same-sex marriage."
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The cons sure love telling others what to do. They generally are hypocritical nuts. Our local cons seem ok in the homosexual department at least.

RayGun said...

It's quite hilarious that the bible mentions helping the poor maybe 500 times and homos maybe 5 times, but what are the cons priorities?

Maybe not as funny as it is scary.

Anon2 said...

Government has no business in being in people's bedroom.

Government has no business in mixing government with religion.

Citizens have no business in being in other people's bedroom.

Suggested solutions:

1) Every couple regardless of sex goes to their local government to marry and get a civic wedding paper.

2) It's up to every couple regardless of sex to marry (2nd step) in a church, temple etc., provided they supply the civic wedding paper.

In both cases they're wedded legally and would be entitled to the same benefits as married couples are.

How does that sound?

RayGun said...

"How does that sound?"
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Sounds good to me. But cons will hate it as they love telling people what to do.

Anon2 said...

Oops, in my previous post I made an error. Sorry.

1) "get a civic wedding paper"

wedding should be UNION.


2) "provided they supply the civic wedding paper."

wedding should be UNION.

CJP said...

Sounds good to me, too. But wedding should be "wedding" --- not "union".

After all, isn't the purpose of a Wedding to Form a More Perfect Union?

Of course, it is.

Casey said...

I have no problem with gay marriage. As a libertarian, I want the government out of my bedroom, livingroom, car, and backyard.
However, this is not just a "con" decision. Our very own Barack Obama is not in favor of gay marriage, and made that clear during the campaign.

Anon2 said...

Guess I didn't explain my previous posts clear enough, I think.

Every couple, regardless of sex, who wants to stay together can get a civic wedding. All laws currently in effect for married couples would apply to them as well.

Then they have the option to get married in a church or temple etc. (if accepted by that religion) provided they give proof of their civic papers. In effect, these people would "marry" twice. First for the government, then for the church.

Of course it's up to the religions to admit or refuse church weddings. If refused, the couples are still having the civic union.

This way the state is separated from the church (religion).

PS: Don't think that business and government would like the above arrangement because it would cost too much money to give the same rights to same sex civic unions. That isn't fair though. Justice and the constitution should be the same for everyone.

Anon2 said...

President Obama has his personal view on gay marriages and he is entitled to have them just like us.

I am sure he would not veto any bill or law of gay marriage if that ever came to happen.

I believe he said something like that during his campaign, of course far more eloquently than I.

How come North America is so behind in human issues compared to Europe?

Casey said...

Anon2: I agree with you on your feelings on gay marriage/civil unions. I don't know anyone that is opposed to civil unions. Most everyone that I have ever talked to believes that gay couples should be allowed the same rights as far as insurance, hospital visits, and such. The marriage part should be left up to the individual states, and churches. I don't know what the big deal is.

Casey said...

BTW- We currently have 6 states that have legalized same sex marriages. California voted it down recently.

Anon2 said...

Indeed, California voted it down recently. Now with elections looming for that state, it will be too soon to reintroduce the same bill again.

And I always thought and read that California used to be the most liberal state. Pity.

I remember gay couples coming to my part of the country to marry.

Casey said...

And I always thought and read that California used to be the most liberal state. Pity.

You're right Anon2. It is one of the most liberal states. Just goes to show you that not all liberals are tolerent and open minded as you claim.

RayGun said...

Funny, never seems to be a republican as all republicans are really libertarians. But you all vote republican.

I say if you vote for the crazy's w, Palin, Bachmann, you own the crazy's actions.

Anon2 said...

With Schwarzenegger (repub) at the helm, it must be more difficult for the dems to govern, even though their state reps have more dems than repubs.

Prob many Latinos must be against gay marriage as many must be devout christians?

Casey said...

ALBANY (CBS) ― Click to enlarge1 of 1
New York will not be joining Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Iowa in legalizing same-sex marriage after the state Senate rejected the bill on Wednesday. (File)
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So much for it being all "con" intolerance! NY is a liberal state.

CJP said...

The Nay votes were from upstate senators in Conservative districts who were worried about future Conservative primary challenges. The New York Assembly had already approved Gay marriage, and the governor was ready to sign the bill.

Gay Marriage was rejected by Conservatives, not by liberals -- as usual.

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